Thanks, it's mostly made for fun and experimentation so that's why i give it away. I learn something new about poser all the time. Earlier today i found out, by accident, that light 4 and upwards in poser 4.03 have near infinite shadow map settings (goes up to 100 000) i have just tested with maps of 4000 and 6000 in resolution and it makes an incredible difference. If i had known about this before i would have updated poser ages ago instead of waiting so long (i updated 2 months ago). It's incredible that i haven't picked this information up on this site, it's probably common knowledge but i have never seen it anywhere. I looked through the Poser 4.03 readme and it says nothing about this at all! If anyone wants to make their own bodymorph poses then i have a tutorial on my site, click on the typewriter. BTW: what's the highest shadow map setting anyone have rendered with? Staale