That was probably a scene rendered in a different program? In that case there are soo many variables to take into account that's impossible to judge if the other program has a more efficient renderer, or that it maybe renders less, or the light setup was easier etc etc. Light can make a LOT of difference. Still performance can differ a lot between programs. The raytracers of Bryce and Vue seem extremely slow compared to Cinema4D. (Haven't done much with it, just a bit of playing around. Having lots of problems with transmaps in san francisco hair. Maybe that's why it is faster too. Who knows? :-)) You could try a second benchmark for Poser with hi-res Vicky and hi-res shadowmaps, although I don't expect much difference. I think you would mainly see much higher memory demands, but as long as you have enough memory not much difference relatively from the current list. If you make a Poser scene and put it in free stuff I guess we'll find enough people to give it another try. And this time we'll have to make sure that everybody has the dancing man turned off :-)