JD: for you, chest hair. Dave: I'd have to get so many permissions to put all this in Freestuff, it'd be almost pointless. When I'm done, I'll post as many of the sources as I know. Some I don't (because of lack of read mes in the zips), like this harness. Real sweet piece of work, but the "author" neglected to put anything in that could tell me who created it in the first place.