Thanks everyone so much for your help so far! I'm pretty new to Poser and getting more confident every day. Now I'm wanting to try new things. I went to Traveler's and got a morph of male jeans that looked like the pockets were smoothed on it, as you suggested Cindy. And Dreamspinner I will also try your idea in the next few days. If I should ever find a black leather texture I will let you know. Thanks for the ideas! :-) Funryu, if you could make those pants I would be so grateful! LOL Thanks to you as well for adding it to the wishlist. :-)