heyas; okay, i figured it out. you use the brick as a repeating tile! that's okay, then. duh. now just one more 'duh' question... how do i get the fool bricks to be horizontal? they're all standing up on end! i tried rotating the texture, and if i put it at x=90 one side is good... but the other two sides turn into ghastly streaks. :/ (i guess i have to go rotate the bitmap 90 degrees?) actually, the streaks still occur if i make the texture object-spaced and rotate the object. (hope i never have to make any flying brick things! ;) ) also did the same thing for my mortared stone. cruised the vue web ring listing like a vulture this morning, looking for goodies, and scored some nice textures and things. ;) but i still want to know how to make the function blobs bigger or smaller -- or more or less contrasty, or to grow/shrink them... you know what i mean. (i hope.) and how to make some decent woodgrain. dont particularly want a picture of wood, quess. :)