Yeh, I too got vue to help make poser to work with out door scenes, but now I only render in poser to look at stuff while I am fidgeting with figures, getting them ready to save and import into vue. Heck, I had to turn on antialiasing just to get some test renders of a new hair product. I have only seen a couple of bryce pictures that i would put in the ball park of the mediocre vue renders, and they were usually quite unusual. Vue's the best way to go for my needs. eric