micronot...hehe I have a 750 athlon (quite a good machine a couple years ago) and what was supposed to be the best "gaming" card at the time(I don't even play games...what was I thinking;), but i have to turn open gl off in order to maintain stability. I have had a couple crashes since turning off open-gl, but only a couple. Vue certainly has it's shortcomings, but I am still happy that I have it. Just save lots (and a lot of the crashes leave processes open....if you Cnt Alt Del and select the right thing, Vue will start back -- can't rembember what kind of things, though) eric