Thanks guys and gals! Yeah, she can walk flat foot, only her default (0 bend) is for heels, same as SMV. To put it another way, she wears flats as well as regular Vickie wears heels! She has toes too, only then are bumps rather than individual like her fingers, but she can bend 'em. Another corner I cut to save polygons. Other than that teeth , she has all the working parts, she even has her eyelashes mapped to a dedicated transparency map, like Dina (and Vickie should have had). Ah, to the red knees, she will never tell- besides she can't tell, as she can't open her mouth! Oh, she take SMV/Vickie poses too, mine above are from some that I bought at Bbay, pretty nice, I think (I sell there, but I'm a customer too!)