I agree about the eyes. I touched them up for post to the ABCG ng, but I just found Catherina's in my unzipped file so I'll get them out and fiddle with them with my textures-George's texture had very very blue eyes and I slightly touched them up. I didn't save these as PZ3's so can't redo the image--in fact, I did each separately and worked with them as layers resizing Patrick for distancing behind Eric. I prefer to work in PSP when I'm using backgrounds, altho' I usually bring the background into Poser as background to see if I like it. I've gotten so used to creating separate figures to load into Bryce that I rarely do a multi figure in Poser--also because I prefer not to 'crash'--occasionally that happens when I load too much into it. Y'all really are into the 'coziness' aren't you? LOL I suppose I could have moved them further back into the picture and had them further apart--up this close I couldn't get them much further apart and get them in the picture together. Picture someone saying "let me snap your picture and get closer together so I can get you in the viewfinder" G. Also, I thought I showed Patrick standing >behind< Eric by the fact of the sizing of the 2 images. Diane B