I've never lost everything, but I've had them wrecked in other ways-- texture changed or burnt into the skin so it looks crappy and can't be removed. Morphs gone, all sorts of minor tragedies that basically mean do the darn scene again, if I can remember how. And this is when I had ordinary saves, not frozen ones. I had it happen on revert to save too. Now I just stick in there till the darn things done and render as big as I can. Just in case. This is on 98 and ME, haven't got my XP puter yet. Emily