That's very true...and I do agree on that point completely. Editors based on notepad and alikes are the most effective by far. Just when having to do some more than usual (like working with loads of style sheets, scripts or trying to place things on exact locations with the help of tables) nothing sofar beats dreamweaver. Although you do indeed need to be careful that it doesn't mess around with your code.....that can give you lots of extra work =( But then again, nothing's perfect :)