Lyrra, I agree with your sentiments. However, I think it would be a shame if Renderosity retreated to the moral high ground completely, that's a very bland place. The humour of the thread has been amusing but, does it reflect a dumbing down? Will we degenerate into the flame wars and xenophobia displayed on many news groups? I hope not. I notice the guy's gone, so I've either just lost a competitor or a peer....