It's a 2 year 3d animation associates. I'm taking longer because I've been an English Major for the last 3 years. I've just started this. From all these links and comments though I'm getting a stronger and stronger feeling this isn't going to leave me ready for professional work. It bears thinking out. :Grins: I don't mind starting that low... I've always been apt at moving up. And I'm a single guy living alone without any real costs :grins: I can live ona little pretty easily for now. Just depends on where I get work. But it's a few years away... it gives me time to figure out how to approach it and if I want to get any more education. ;grins: Gaming just seems it'd be more fun... and a place I can learn more, maybe doing things in Hollywood later on. 3d animation just kind of came out as a "well.. I don't hate it, i wouldn't mind that being my career." But I do enjoy it... so thats the best I can hope for. Beats going to law school which is what I WAS going to go do. :grins: Anz