Ok, I tried saving several models as Pz3's and it appears you are correct Mike, the newer ones don't give me the error message about the bum files being invalid...........so, I have to think that they worked? And Guitta, I tried opening the material editor and all I get are the materials that are native to vue, which end up changing my material to what was in the window when I opened it? Did you import the map first so it shows in the screen as you have posted above? Maybe, I am missing something here? In anycase, I like to thank you both for taking the time to reply, and when I have more time. I will play around some more and see what happens. Take care all and have a great day. Genny