I tried a couple of home made characters, with no luck either. I haven't had any time to try again, but I just figured I didn't know what I was doing or the clothing items just didn't have enough polys to support the change (one was a curvier vicky figure and the other more streemlined...both on DAZ clothing, but not from the clothing pack). Sirkrite's suggestion sounds quite reasonable, though, since the morphs probably are probably based on the difference of the base shape versus what it sees as the dial. Have to go check it out.... eric