I tried the magnet tutorials. Couldn't even manage to do that right. None of them worked for me, no matter how carefully I followed the instructions. Part of the problem is the Poser interface. Using those darn trackballs and dials rather than a four window view drag and drop and rotate is what kills me. I just don't have enough control with those balls to get things lined up properly. I dearly hope Poser 5 has a more user friendly interface, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. ;-)