Speaking as a Mac'er, thank you! I found a program called Fractal Studio that says it does 3D fractal objects, but so far I haven't figured out exactly how?? Does your prof happen to know of an app that will? It doesn't even have to be free or shareware...I've reached the level of desperation that will allow me to buy one! (Oh--and better tell him about that trifling Math Impairment I suffer from too!)