Hi Folks! I was hesitant to mention Infini-D 4.5 until Alleycat169 did. I use it for modelling and importing into Poser by way of Painter 3D and UV Mapper. God, I wish someone would rescue that app from software oblivion!! I think the ease-of-use and leaning curve in ID 4.5 are so wonderful that I use it as the flagship tool in my animation courses for consumers, along with Poser or Bryce. (Or any of my students reading this?) I am, however, gradually migrating-- both personally and thru the courses-- to Lightwave via its junior version, Inspire 3D. I've had Animation Master for years, but I've never had the time to learn it-- and its learning curve doesn't appear to be nearly as inviting as Infini-D's is/was. Is there ANYBODY out here from the old Specular company that would like to see Infini-D get a new lease on life? Peter (Dr Zik)