VirtualSite-- I understand what you're saying but it ultimately doesn't help too very much. It puts us back to "I know pornography when I see it." I always wanted to respond, "and do you see it on a regular basis?" I really think we need clear-as-day rules. I just revisited the pic that started my antennas quivering last night. Preteen girl on a Ouija board, scary as heck, sexy, hell yes, in a terrifying way. Out of bounds?? I don't know. I only know I found it inspiring! And, I have no idea if this sort of thing is going to be off-limits imminently. That's the problem. Pervs, like the poor, are with us always. And it doesn't matter how tame you make your pictures, pervs will get off on them. Well, maybe not the nude I post tonight, but she's a big gal and definetly over 18-- I referring to her dress size, if she were wearing one. Don't expect many hits, and don't care. I think I'm more put-off by the blank stares in the Poser gallery and the lack of expression than any of the nudity, male or female. Some of the renders are so darn tasteful they are soulless. I'm pleasantly surprised that I like most of the VV pictures and will probably get the package, though I doubt I'll be scaling her up to double Ds. Emily