Oh, and I mean no personal criticism towards VirtualSite or anybody else who wants to see the place porn free. I only mean good intentions won't do it, clear rules will. And though the rules are very clear now-- although, renders keep pushing them right to the edge and beyond-- it seems most people feel a different standard should be used for underaged models. Even if they only exist in mesh. If so, then those rules should also be in black and white. No guessing. I seem to remember the rules on teen nudity at Renderotica is more stringent than here-- but I haven't been there in awhile and could be wrong. Emily