sigh..you mac users are so intolerant of others :) Actually it isnt avi that I care about its mpeg. I do not have a great way to make mpegs right now. The AVI codec I am using is the microsoft mpeg4 codec, and in my research nothing except for DIVX comes close to the resulotion/size of this codec. I edit video's for a living and everyday I kick out 2-8 thumbnails for clients. I would LOVE to have a great multi platform solution. If ANYone here can come up with one I would love to hear it b/c I would adapt it to use here instantly. - brent * please for the love of all this right and true...DO NOT tell me to use the sorenson codec....thats all I hear about from the carrara community, but compared to even mpeg1 I have only seen it look like crap, and it is never near the size I am looking for (under 5megs for a 30sec spot at 640x480).