Who's intolerant? I'm just saying that .AVI guarantees nothing. If any other application's files were that, um, variable, people would be up in arms about it. QT is stable; don't call me names for stating a fact. You have to have under 5M at 30sec/640x480? Smells like your clients have 56K connections. I don't think the codec industry's got much interest in lowband these days.