Lol Alley! Ok I guess 100% Bryce referred to the modelling in Bryce! So textures, effects (for eg. foley pro's effects) brought in is ok (As long as THEY ARE NOT THE PRIMARY ELEMENT of composition) Lets say you are showing to Gladiators fighting it out and you need a crowd of thousands! Well in that case you can either make an intelligent composition where there's a suggestion of a large crowd! Or you might import in pict objects to fill in the distant crowd! AS LONG AS THE GLADIATORS are done Completely in bryce and occupy a major portion of the composition and/or are the center of attraction! I'll also clarify here: Compositing is allowed! As long as its elements done within the same scene or for effects like depth of field, blur, motion blur, highlight, lens flare etc etc We know that Bryce can be glacially slow when you are rendering! So if you go around this by compositing then that isn't a prob. But you can't render a particular sky and composite in another object. Also neither will an image done in Bryce and worked upon extensively in Photoshop (clothes, hair, texture etc) be allowed. Look the whole idea is to challenge ourselves to as stretch Byce's capability as much as we can!!!! You are of course free to rework and redo the image as you please to bring it as close to what you imagined it to be and put that image up in your gallery. But for the sake of the challenge, please try and stretch Bryce's limits! Hope that clarifies alley. Thanx for bringing out the leaks in the barrel! :-P Ummmmm would you be a lawyer by any chance? ;-)