It seems a little wierd this thread is still an issue... First of all, the actual thread that matters was moved, and while no link was provided by admin, someone, out of the kindeness of their heart, took the time to post the link... who was it that did that? Oh, wait... it was me. Also, this isn't really a matter of a thread that was moved to quiet it down or suppress it, it was moved to that forum because, undeniably, JenyK is the person to deal with it. One of my threads was moved there, too, awhile back, and I'm rather glad that I got the feedback from the person who's actually appointed to deal with those matters officially. Also, Jeff: There's something to be said for precedent. Several weeks ago I posted on a thread that made some pretty harsh statements about bebop/virchual/zoeloves. They were quite obviously a personal attack, and so I IMed Spike to ask if it was acceptable, or if I should delete reword my post. As far as I know, that post still stands in the original thread, and there has never been a complaint to me about it, on the grounds that the individual I was making an attack against was no longer a member here, and had repeatedly acted in ways that, I felt, necessitated a calling out. In retrospect, that post of mine was out of bounds, but, in Blackhearted's defense, bear in mind he's working from the assumption that it was acceptable before. Lately, there have been a lot of changes in rosity administration, and a lot of shuffling of mod's and admin's positions that is affecting various TOS interpretations. Perhaps it would be incumbent for the mods and admins to use their own channels to develop some sort of concensus or guidelines to what was the proper interpretation. Don't think I'm bagging on you folks... I think you're doing a fine job... But from the member's side of things, it gets a bit tough to know in all circumstances what's ok and what's not. Most people shouldn't ever have a problem with the variations in interpretation from forum to forum, but those who do are probably also going to be the ones who speak out the loudest when they feel they've been stepped on, regardless of whether or not there was actually a stepping on involved. Well, I'm broke, so... no $.02 from me... Regards, Paul