HI! Here's Ajtooley's description of the challenge (minus all the verbiage! ;-) by ajtooley on 4/13/02 08:19 "Humorix, can I restate the challenge as I understand it ... The way I read it, the challenge is: create an image depicting some kind of duel with no imported models and as little postwork as possible. 2D picts can be imported as long as they are not central to the scene. Is that right?" Sounds like a good one to me. :-) Thanx Aj, the interpretation is perfect and folks do excuse my verbiage! :-)