Thanks for the offer JeffH, we already got him added by using a different email address. This isn't really about hand-adding people anymore, it's about correcting the renderosity script as noted in the thread! How many people on average sign-up on any given day. Multiply this be at least 2 and you have the figure of potential members. Now, I'm not sure what the math is of those members for making purchases is but to me that is a lot of potential Market Place customers that are also being dismissed by the current ebot mail system. You can see how this snowballs.......... From a marketing standpoint look at how many people are NOT seeing the adds and sponsors. Would'nt it be cool at sponsor renewal time to have doubled the size of viewers to the Bondware, Curious Labs and Worldbuilder branding? What's really sad though is when you stop and think about all the people who weren't able to sign up. They go away with a bad impression of renderosity; lame, elitist or broken..... This is really, really not good. Some of those people could be potential employers, sponsors etc. It might be worthwhile to copy this thread to the rest of the admin for their input or to the person(s) who look after the mail scripting. um, sorry to be your thorn of the day...