Hey Dan, Maybe we should take this discussion elsewhere after this. As for the lack of response during the Beta process. Apparently some of our lines crossed because I felt that I was the one receiving the lack of response. I had written a few e-mails about it but never got a reply in return. As for making the conforming CR2 for clothing. It actually sounds like we are using the same process, that being using an existing CR2 as a seed. As for defining JP's mathematically, that is a topic and a project for the future. It is something I have planned and working on code to handle this. When I get something, you and I could have a few discussions on it. Might make both products better. Essentially, it is my belief that ANYTHING can be defined mathematically, you just need the right parameters.