Basically Hash isn't looking too good then is it? But Poser still needs to move on I think. I wasn't looking for a vicky/michael quality model, just something to persuade me that Poser can compete with the big guys. The Pro add on isn't it. I would have thought that CL would off read the various wish lists and gone from there. At its price, it is a fantastic piece of software. But Premier it aint. And it could be.