alpha, got the point, ur of course right. at the worst i had to add a little noise if the quality was too good at first :)) but one pain ITA comes up quickly: i had to buy a new digi to get better results (in terms of noise at least). the sony p5 optic is crap ('cuse me) but i love it though. would call it digi-lomo (hm, in respect thereof one other drawback, common to most digicams: it last to long from pressing the ON button till the first shot...)... anyhow: it will get better i think. shot more fast'n'quick'n'dirty photos in the last 3 months than the 10 years before, improvement is natural when just doing something constantly and with interest/bit enthusiasm... :)