I don't think any of us "big-guys" started of being as big guys. In case anybody is interested...here are my first Bryce images at www.geocities.com/uptoantix (I found "Uptoantix" name taken here when I joined :-(| ) It was coming across www.deeptextures.deamon.co.uk, when I saw how much more the envelope of Bryce could be pushed and have been addicted ever since! Yes, I guess a lot of us are there to assist! I agree with ringbearer (hmmm is he a hobbit? a Troll? a faerie? a wizard? a dwarf?....I wonder???) that there are other factors which will lead to deciding which is a great "image". I had suggested a scoring system in a previous post which I'll re-iterate here: 25% for interpretation of idea/theme/concept, 35% for aesthetic appeal (color, composition, balance etc) and 40% for thechnical abilities. That way not only do we get some idea about how people view our works but also how we fare vis-a-vis others asgainst a simple "I vote for..." :-)