smerc, you're too funny (grinning) I also find Renderosity very slow, both from a cable connection and a T1 connection. Seems to me that Renderosity is using Apache servers which are fine, just not quite "beefy" enough for an enterprise sized hosting situation and traffic patterns! Could also be their pipeline is stuffed with all those extra 1's & 0's (smiles)time for a "burstable" solution me thinks! hmm, I suppose it could also be..... I'm just speculating about all the above. Will be interesting to see what we learn are the reasons! The best part though? In spite of the slowness, we all keep coming back :) What a wonderfully determined bunch we are ;)