That's because they jumped from how it applies to Poser renders. To personal beliefs about how governments act. We jumped into human rights and morals in this thread too. So technically, I should have just moved this thread and not even said anything at all. Just do me a favor and keep it Poser related in some small way. And I'll crawl back into my cage. :-) Talking about how it relates to our TOS is fine. ScottA