This question seem to be ever going on from the KPT/Poser Onelist and even a Vue Onelist just started with 30+ members overnite. There is no all program in one. Bryce 4 is good so is Vue and all the programs that were created for graphics. Ask what are you doing with Bryce 4 and that what you want to buy Vue for? What is the output or end product you want from a program that you feel its worth spending money on? To answer your question, I would use a combination of Bryce, Vue, Terragen and a paint program with plenty of filters and plugins. Take a look at http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=4481&Start=1&Sectionid=3&MostWanted=Yes 97% Vue and can do without that 3%. I certainly would like to see Bryce do this :) Bill