Hmmm... Flamage aside, I think I see what the deal is here. VS: Currently, there is no enforceable federal law on the books banning CG-generated kiddie porn. OTOH, I sincerely doubt that the pedos are busily trying their damndest to crank any out at this moment, either... mainly because there are lots and lots of state (and even local) laws out there that ban much the same thing, though each state has worded its laws differently, differently enough perhaps to pass muster at the SC. Given this, I seriously doubt that the pervs are going to look at this week's events and say "whelp, that was the green light I've been waiting for! Time to go buy Poser at the store and make us some smut!" You are right in that technology is getting to the point where realism and pure CG art can be hard to differentiate at times... with the right lighting and post-work, you can make a computer generate a CG person's image right now that the casual observer would swear was real. However, I believe that technology also raises a darker spectre... that of thoughtcrime. Law by its nature is too slow in creation to keep pace with technology, so to compensate, it tries to look ahead... sometimes, it steps over the line. In this case, it did. As disgusting and unpalatable as CG kiddie porn may be, there was a very real possibility of innocent people getting snared in a net originally designed to catch such pedos. Legislators are just as human as we are, and they screw up with the same regularity. Yes, the SC struck this one down... time for the Capitol to get off it's ass and do the job right this time. BTW, a query... what laws are/was in place to prevent and control pedos from drawing or painting kiddie porn and passing that around? More importantly, when they were enacted, when were they enacted, and what effect did it have on the number of incidents involving that particular type of kiddie porn sicne their enactment? I guess what I'm saying is, this whole thing is blown out of proportion... a badly written law bit the dust, and has to be re-written. That's all there is to it. In the meanwhile, any pedo with more than two operating brain cells isn't going to suddenly say to himself "holy shit, I'm free! woo-hoo!" Instead, they're going to worry about state laws, about new laws, and about the same things they always worry about: Will they get caught or not, and what will happen to them if they do? After all, pedos don't have a very long life expectancy in a prison's general population, nor do they much enjoy the wrath and ostracization from their neighbors after being outed. So, in that regard, I think we can safely put the tempest back in it's teapot and instead work on making sure the new law does what it is supposed to do, and no more than what it's supposed to do. Now, in regards to TigerD... he picked a rather poor choice of words. I can't say that I blame Legume, Momcat, or any of the R'otica staff... if someone said that I somehow condoned kiddie porn, I'd jump down their throats and demand an immediate apology myself. You see, erotica is a business and art form that walks a very tight line at times... it's either extreme BDSM, or it's a snuff film; it's either a pair of 'barely legal' 18-yr old girls having a go at sappho, or it's blatant kiddie porn... like I said, fantasy and sex mixed tends to draw a very fine line at times. The fact that people come in all shapes, sizes, and appearances at all ages doesn't help things all that much. Since R'otica, like Thralldom or any other erotic site has more to lose (and faster) from any mis-application of law, or in this case, misuse of implementation over the intent of the law, they are going to be a little more on-edge towards preventing any appearance of violating it. Also, as a consequence they are going to be much faster at defending their reputations... especially when someone impugns it, even without thinking. Anyrate, let's put the damned flamethrowers away already. /P