also some short, no longer than one week, challenges. The seasons contest has gone on so long now i've totaly lost interest in it. so how about some theme challenges, one each week and some challenges specific to certain fractal programs AND a way to post the code from the different fractal programs. You can easily share fractint pars, ultrafractal uprs and other fractal program files but there's no easy way to do that here. If there were, we could have a challenge sort of like the paintshop do it to it's where the moderator would post the weekly fractal par file and everyone would do something with it and post the changes to the forum