I might try doing it that way. Problem I am having alot is that the model moves and loses the prop in the other hand. Maybe I can parent and then lock the one hand not to move while moving the other. I pretty much been using the mouse to drag the body parts around, then fine tune with the dials. What this has done is move the whole body, mostly good cept when the other hand drops the props it's holding. Just tried using dails only, not dragging, and that was a DRAG! Have to do each part one at a time, and still lost it! QT? nope don't have it, not even sure what it is. That reminds me too, is anyone actualy using poser to make movies? Short or long, I think the above link was really the first time I saw one mentioned! I hear what a great Animation program this is, how how great it is supposed to be for making actual MOVIES and life like cartoons, but all I ever see are thousands of still pics! Any type of still pic, I can find, but I don't think I actually ever saw an animation anywhere unless just a little banner type of thing. I know the file size would be one thing holding back the number of online movies, but you would think there would still be quite a few. Just look at the porn sites! THEY ALL advertise thousands of feeds! I'll keep hammerin away at it. Thanks dizzo