Hello Clint, I thank you for your assistance thus far and I was unable to find out the video resolution, at any rate my computer was having some serious problems with Ray Dream. I am now working with the G4 for on something called a Fast Ragepro videocard. If you can still assist me with the water thing I would be grateful. I was discussing another technique for creating streams using the metaball deformer shapes covering the width of a gutter shaped terrain in overlapping repetitions w/ a homemade water texture and perhaps some physical behavior. Later,

Must've slipped my mind...but it's the thought that counts...

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