Ack! Stop right there please. Carolly, I love to shoot the breeze with you folks. But this is exactly the kind of message that forces me to move threads. People come in here to read about Poser. And they see us talking about the word Faggot. Then everyone jumps in and gives their opinion. And before you know it. People start calling eachother names. And WWIII breaks out. ;-) The people who come here to learn about poser stuff are pissed that we are cluttering up the forum with unrelated stuff. So lets just quietly back away from this discussion. OK? ScottA