find a frozen one and use a clone brush to unfreeze it =) naaaa, I know what you mean, I do all my stuff in 3d just because I'm not going to spend so much money on film, and wait for it to be developed. How I wish for a digital camera. It was just that this picture struck me as an example where it would look way awesome with a real person there. I don't mean to insult your poser-person by any means either =) SewerRat