Small - an issue for me with all the DAZ figures has always been the crotch region. They make a point of keeping the vertex count down to keep their figures out of porn as much as possible, I guess. So, for poses that require detail down there, how does Amy shape up? I had a look at your render, very nice it was too, and she obviously had genitals! Am I right?? Also, how does she handle poses like legs open or most of all, on all fours? Do the hips bend in an acceptable fashion, making her look halfway realistic? Vicki is a serious problem here, a real drag. She almost doesn't have a perineum, it's 2 polys wide (!) Eve was sort of OK, but she had the Posette buttocks, the dreaded saddlebags. :o] Oh, and how is Cindy genitals and bends wise? Anybody know? :] FishNose