Not really. There's no clarity to it. Don't think CL necessarily has the last say in this just because they make Poser. What you're looking at is intellectual property rights. The above argument is bad logic and doesn't display an understanding of copyright law. It's like saying you can't copyright a book because then eventually all the words in the language will be copyrighted. It's the work that went into the combination that is Blackhearted's investment, and the combination itself that is protected. "...the position where we can not use the cameras or lights with in Poser unless we also purchase these sets." A copyright doesn't mean someone can't use something, it means they can't redistribute it without permission. Copyright is exactly that: the right to make copies. That's what the read me's are all about. In the unlikely event that someone develops a set of lights so very similar to the first set and releases them, that's just tacky, not illegal. But as VirtualSite so amply demonstrated, these are precisely the same lights and someone is intentionally perpetrating fraud. However you look at it, someone is ripping off Blackhearted's efforts and I'm tired of watching people come up with lame excuses to assuage their consciences so they can use the free ones (not an accusation against you Mike).