Thanks Blackhearted, I will accept that as an insult. I have so far in this thread agreed with your right to be angry about what Bebop has done, also I've agreed that there is a highly slim to ridiculous chance that anyone could stumble on your precise light settings with that number of lights in that number of scene sets. I stated that the evidence VS posted is condemning. Yet for some reason you seem to assume I'm saying you're wrong. Well bollocks to you pal. I have and do question the right of anyone to copyright the finite dial settings available in a program like Poser 4, same as I question the right to copyright poses. However you've ignored this side of things, ignored the example I set above regarding the number of chances across the number of lights, call me thickheaded, and challenge me. I suggest you read again Post 24. You seem to have missed some fundamental points. There is a high chance I could exactly replicate one light setting. There is a very slim chance I could replicate 25, there is a virtually ridiculous chance of me ever replicating 6 sets of 25 lights exactly. Do pay attention, I might not know you, I might not give a flying duck about you, but I have been agreeing with you just not on the copyright issue as this has far greater implications to the poser community than your light sets. However, I'll take your thickheaded comment and go away to find somewhere I can have it thinned a bit. Perhaps next time you'll think about it before you have a go at someone in your corner. BTW, poems and novels are not limited by software, only imagination. Poor comparison.