But I think most people would have gotten that notion by now. Here's what I know. These things all improved and were diversified because of interaction between customers and merchants: the packages from PWFW's last upload, and heck the one before that; several of spectre3's packages' both of PhilC's Romantics-- [part of those had to be sequestered in the Product Forum, where I hang out, but not too many other people do, or at least they don't post] This means, we got more stuff, to buy or not, and we got to express feedback on what we wanted and needed. Not only that, talking to designers when they are coming up with a product lowers the barrier between us and them. I do consider the people I buy from friends, and if I don't, I dont' buy anymore. I've said before that Renderosity is different than other commercial environments because of it's friendly co-operative nature. I would Hate to see that change. It makes no sense, either from a point of view of communication in open forum, or commercial sense. Neither of us on either side of the money barrier are gonna get what we want-- in terms of civility and interchange of ideas. I suppose this all came up because of some complaints about advertising in this forum. Wouldn't a simple addendum to the subject-- ADVERT-- be easier? Emily aka queri