Some very good points raised here! "Art is in the eye of the beholder". Sketch something on the back of an envelope and technically it's art, if someone likes it...then good on them! :-) Personally I hate the snobbery that often rears it's head when it comes to discussing people using Poser. (Most of these self-titled experts have never used the program, or have little or no knowledge of it). There are those who would argue that you're not a "true artist" unless you build, texture, pose, light and animate all of your models from scratch, but that's like a traditional artist being expected to grind up pigments to make paint, pull a few hair's from an animal's tail for a brush, and go grow a bowl of fruit! It's nonsense. Art is for EVERYONE, and Poser is just another brilliant, creative "tool". It's what you do with that tool that counts. Dave :-)