Again thanks for all your comments; one thought though, I never said that my ships were model in one piece. I do understand that the ship will have seams and the like; I just have never been able to create textures that are set in the correct direction or scale. Most of the texture that I've seen on spaceships posted here would not fit my idea of what my ship should look like. For that reason I would not just pick anything. I have searched the web and work on different textures and bump maps myself but have never been satisfied with the results. It is easy to point to a picture and say see this is what Im talking about it is a whole other ball game to be able to create this effect in Bryce. You may say why dont you use a different program, not everyone has the money to spend. I do the best with what I have; also if I could create those textures correctly you would still just be seeing various shade of white. You still would not be using dark colors for the reasons Ive stated above. I will however take all the input that has been given into consideration for the future. Thanks again for the input. David ;-)