"But I don't see subscription sites as "commerical" because they (well, PoserWorld at any rate, and I'm sure others, too) don't "cash in" on the profits. Their subscription fees go to bandwidth, not to a tri-level home in the country with a Porsche in the driveway..." Let me offer another scenario. Joe has a site that is, by this definituon, non-commercial. It gets just enough to pay the bills. However, he still has to pay his mortgage, bills, etc, so he has a 9-5 (or more) job. Upside- everything is free, "mom and pop" atmosphere. Downside- less time to concentrate on keeping the site up to date, running, and interesting. Dave has another site. People can give things away, or sell them at a profit. Because they have a larger operating budget, there can be people employed to be available at all times, and site improvements and maintenance can be done. Upside- better service. Downside- a need for a more professional attitude, especially if the site reaches a certain size. Sometimes the "little voice" gets missed. I, and the others really want this site to be great for everyone. If you have complaints, we want to hear them. Just please don't say "that's it, I'm leaving" without at least saying "Look, this is what I don't like. What can you do for me?" Michelle (who wants to know where that site is whose employees drive Porsches.)