Neat Jay :). Hubby and I don't really set dark games in the V:TM (or maybe they just don't seem so dark) because we play whenever. Day or night :) Wow Valander. I haven't even heard of some of those lol. I gues I like D&D and V:TM the best. D&D I find easy and V:TM I see as a challenge because of the fight scenes and having to think like a vampire The other thing that attracts me to them is the artwork. A lot of them are really good :)