Wow, ok, ok, I get the idea, I'm not boring ya yet!! I did try several different combo's with this, lightening the buidling and sky in turn etc, but ended up with this being my fave... Gotta admit, I'm suprised that no-one mentioned the figure in the window; when I started that was going to be my focal point! lol @Slynk - that 'ladder' is the remains of a wooden beam that has been burnt down, and was in the foreground on the original photo. @bonbon - Rodents don't bother me in the least; they don't know better and they're more likely to run than anything. The rats that bother me have 2 legs. Cheers all, once again thatnks for taking the time to comment. (",)