yes i hear what you're saying Ron,i held on to netscape 4.7 for a long while just to use it's email client,which i liked and was quite used too,these day's i use a program called "pocomail" which alltho not quite what i wanted,is fairly customizable and does get the job done with pretty minimal fuss. do a search on any of the big share-ware sites and you'll find more than a few options to try,some free,others inexpensive. my whole point is it seems that everytime you hear about a new virus or worm it seems to be targeted at the MS software that everyone seems to STILL use,now giving everyone equal credit for intelligence why would you keep using software that you know is vulnerable and that "the bad guys" are targeting?this is the part that baffles me they write these dastardly little things counting on the fact that you do use this software..if you don't.. well you still get the virus but maybe it doesn't do anything but set off your virus scanner,and even in the worst case maybe it causes you some problems but everybody you know doesn't get sent a copy...with your address on it!