Thanks for the good advice, every little bit helps.. I just wonder if 10 years from now, when I'm rendering on Poser 9 on my P9 12000Mhz system, will I still be complaining that things aren't fast enough? Knowing myself chances are, I will. I'm sure I'll still be posting on renderosity trying to figure out how I can squeeze the last MHz out of what ever system I'll be on then. I do look forward to 10 years from now.. Just imagine the power we'll have at our fingertips.. But I guess for now I'll manage and dream a little. Thanks again Nick